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August 10, 2008 at 12:00 AM
slash i must say i love your story but well lol killing off slash wow your evil but i also see how it could help for insance after slash dies you could have gardie try to find jirachi to bring him back, for a price of cource just a thought...
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August 10, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Imasuky Lomae---The best editor I ever had was the head of the school newspaper I was in back in high school. Not only was she a damn good editor in technical terms, but she was down to earth and could always see exactly what tone I was trying to use. Plus she didn't rag on me for being too shy to pitch ads to people, lol. Sucks she was only there one year (though I was also fortunate enough to have her as my journalism teacher in freshman year).
Anon---Indeed. While the story has still relatively just begun, a few hundred pages of writing is not something I would want to re-do. That reminds me, I've started backing Sinners up in more places, in case AFF fails and my computer dies at the same time, lol.
Max---Heh. The end of the story is not going to be smooth and pretty. The source of the Shadow, chaos, is even stronger than the gods (including a certain quasi-omnipotent god born of order from that chaos), and as things fall apart, even some of those higher-order entities will be threatened. What's more, while Slash and Psymakio will become much stronger over the course of the story, neither will ever become anywhere near as powerful as gods, which means simply overpowering the Shadow will be impossible.
lolshit.
shadowed death657---Who knows where Jirachi is...
...and who says Jirachi isn't the one responsible for the curse in the first place? :-O
Anon---Indeed. While the story has still relatively just begun, a few hundred pages of writing is not something I would want to re-do. That reminds me, I've started backing Sinners up in more places, in case AFF fails and my computer dies at the same time, lol.
Max---Heh. The end of the story is not going to be smooth and pretty. The source of the Shadow, chaos, is even stronger than the gods (including a certain quasi-omnipotent god born of order from that chaos), and as things fall apart, even some of those higher-order entities will be threatened. What's more, while Slash and Psymakio will become much stronger over the course of the story, neither will ever become anywhere near as powerful as gods, which means simply overpowering the Shadow will be impossible.
lolshit.
shadowed death657---Who knows where Jirachi is...
...and who says Jirachi isn't the one responsible for the curse in the first place? :-O
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August 10, 2008 at 12:00 AM
“Oh yeah, and RoboRed convinced me to kill someone. LOL, sorry bud, you have no idea what you unintentionally did.”
Splitting up my various reactions here…
1. *waves arms in air with stupid grin on face* I HELPED!!! ^_^
2. Oh…teh…noes…O_O
3. Zomg…I’m a murderer…;_;
4. Yess…Death, darkness, angst, tragedy...*evil grin* >:D
All these ending something like this:
- Omg, who is it!?!? What did I do to start this!?!? When did I say it!?!? Was it in arc 1 or 2 when I said it!?!? Must know more!!!
@ Max:
“Oh, and last anon: I actually thought of that song while I was thinking about Quiero :P Good stuff.”
What song is it again? I’m having a hard time sifting through the comments…
And did anyone give my song suggestion thingie a listen? Just out of curiosity… :/
Splitting up my various reactions here…
1. *waves arms in air with stupid grin on face* I HELPED!!! ^_^
2. Oh…teh…noes…O_O
3. Zomg…I’m a murderer…;_;
4. Yess…Death, darkness, angst, tragedy...*evil grin* >:D
All these ending something like this:
- Omg, who is it!?!? What did I do to start this!?!? When did I say it!?!? Was it in arc 1 or 2 when I said it!?!? Must know more!!!
@ Max:
“Oh, and last anon: I actually thought of that song while I was thinking about Quiero :P Good stuff.”
What song is it again? I’m having a hard time sifting through the comments…
And did anyone give my song suggestion thingie a listen? Just out of curiosity… :/
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August 10, 2008 at 12:00 AM
@characterkiller (aka robo red)
it's the new (nigh overplayed but still great) song by Coldplay, Viva La Vida.
And I didn't listen to yours, but if it helps I don't have speakers on this computer (>:( ) so I can't listen to much of anything.
it's the new (nigh overplayed but still great) song by Coldplay, Viva La Vida.
And I didn't listen to yours, but if it helps I don't have speakers on this computer (>:( ) so I can't listen to much of anything.
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August 9, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Here's a quick and random review. I love the story and it's characters. My five cents to all this "critique" stuff is that the general amount of people viewing this like it. Why change halfway(technically less) and potentially lose them all? On a happier side note, one of the previous reviews talked about matching songs and got me thinking. When I was reading the whole fantasy castle scene I couldn't stop hearing Viva La Vida by Coldplay. Just thought I'd speak my thoughts to an awesome writer.
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August 9, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Couple quick, really pointless things.
Through your last counterargument to Jack (I lol'd sometimes through that fight; "you can be my spellcheck.") You made quite a few quick snatches of plot be semi-revealed. One that gave me goosebumps was:
"the laws of reality begin to shatter and gods themselves fall dead from the sky."
Fuck dude. Keep writing, I need to see this.
Oh, and last anon: I actually thought of that song while I was thinking about Quiero :P Good stuff.
Through your last counterargument to Jack (I lol'd sometimes through that fight; "you can be my spellcheck.") You made quite a few quick snatches of plot be semi-revealed. One that gave me goosebumps was:
"the laws of reality begin to shatter and gods themselves fall dead from the sky."
Fuck dude. Keep writing, I need to see this.
Oh, and last anon: I actually thought of that song while I was thinking about Quiero :P Good stuff.
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August 9, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Alpha Xi---If you don't want to read Sinners, you shouldn't. If you don't think you can enjoy it, fine.
If, however, you actually read Sinners and considered it with an open mind (not a 'concept is repulsive but I'm bored' starting point, or a 'let's see what I don't like' intent), that would make your opinions on the story valid and potentially constructive, yes. The review pages have plenty of questions and complaints from people that have been considered, discussed, and sometimes worked into the story...because they were made by people who did read the story and did it with the intent to be entertained (they also amazingly managed to do it without being dicks).
However, good sir, if your intent is to complain about my use of a large, sweeping storylines, then I'm not interested; "I don't like the genre" is no more valid criticism than complaining about the font. People can hate it all they want, that's fine, I hated stuffy and boring Jane Eyre when I had to read it in school...but an author really doesn't have to give a shit what, say, action thriller fans think about their fantasy romance novel.
Neither am I interested if you don't like the interactive, perhaps indeed 'soap-opera-esque' style of a living work. So far the only complaints I've gotten about cliffhangers and surprises are that they're too long in resolution due to my slow updating; "I want to know how things will turn out before they happen" is not valid criticism. If someone wants that, they can watch the Pokemon anime. Ash and Brock and [insert this season's female lead] will be traveling to [insert name] town, where Team Rocket will attack Pikachu with crossdressing and giant robots until being BLASTED OFF AGAIN.
And lastly, I am not interested if you intend to spam the review space with spammy, page-stretching cries for attention whenever your previous pointless reviews are deleted for such nonsense. Should that happen again, good sir, I will delete anything you post here in the future, whether valid or not. Grow up. If that dismissal is a little too much and you want to write an ED article complaining about it, go ahead, I'd be honored (ED fan myself) and it would swing me a few more hits.
Like Quiero said, it's not possible to satisfy everyone. If you don't like Sinners, nothing is forcing you to read it or enjoy it. This ain't lit class, I ain't forcing anyone to read a fantasy romance epic that doesn't want to.
Simple as that.
If, however, you actually read Sinners and considered it with an open mind (not a 'concept is repulsive but I'm bored' starting point, or a 'let's see what I don't like' intent), that would make your opinions on the story valid and potentially constructive, yes. The review pages have plenty of questions and complaints from people that have been considered, discussed, and sometimes worked into the story...because they were made by people who did read the story and did it with the intent to be entertained (they also amazingly managed to do it without being dicks).
However, good sir, if your intent is to complain about my use of a large, sweeping storylines, then I'm not interested; "I don't like the genre" is no more valid criticism than complaining about the font. People can hate it all they want, that's fine, I hated stuffy and boring Jane Eyre when I had to read it in school...but an author really doesn't have to give a shit what, say, action thriller fans think about their fantasy romance novel.
Neither am I interested if you don't like the interactive, perhaps indeed 'soap-opera-esque' style of a living work. So far the only complaints I've gotten about cliffhangers and surprises are that they're too long in resolution due to my slow updating; "I want to know how things will turn out before they happen" is not valid criticism. If someone wants that, they can watch the Pokemon anime. Ash and Brock and [insert this season's female lead] will be traveling to [insert name] town, where Team Rocket will attack Pikachu with crossdressing and giant robots until being BLASTED OFF AGAIN.
And lastly, I am not interested if you intend to spam the review space with spammy, page-stretching cries for attention whenever your previous pointless reviews are deleted for such nonsense. Should that happen again, good sir, I will delete anything you post here in the future, whether valid or not. Grow up. If that dismissal is a little too much and you want to write an ED article complaining about it, go ahead, I'd be honored (ED fan myself) and it would swing me a few more hits.
Like Quiero said, it's not possible to satisfy everyone. If you don't like Sinners, nothing is forcing you to read it or enjoy it. This ain't lit class, I ain't forcing anyone to read a fantasy romance epic that doesn't want to.
Simple as that.
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August 9, 2008 at 12:00 AM
For one, I was not the one to say anything about ED.
For two, if you're happy with the way you write, and proud of it, you really have no reason to even respond to what criticism you disagree with. If you like your writing exactly the way it is (as you seem to, apparently) that is fine. But it is the very fact that you feel the need to defend yourself that bothers me, as you lash out against anyone who doesn't open their review with "I liked it, but..."
If you summarily dismiss anyone who flatly didn't like your story and tells you why, you will always be what you are right now - a hack.
For two, if you're happy with the way you write, and proud of it, you really have no reason to even respond to what criticism you disagree with. If you like your writing exactly the way it is (as you seem to, apparently) that is fine. But it is the very fact that you feel the need to defend yourself that bothers me, as you lash out against anyone who doesn't open their review with "I liked it, but..."
If you summarily dismiss anyone who flatly didn't like your story and tells you why, you will always be what you are right now - a hack.
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August 9, 2008 at 12:00 AM
A small addendum, because it's bugging me. I think it is absolutely pathetic that you feel the need to twist a valid point so that it can fit in your little box of believing your story is as close to perfect as is possible. "I want to know how things will turn out before they happen" is not even close to what I said. If you were a true writer you'd understand the difference between making sure the reader had sufficient clues to the progress of the story and flatly laying out the story for them. As I said, the measure is not making the reader go "did not see that coming" but to make them say that, go back, read it again, and feel like they should have picked up on it. It is THAT, not the twist itself, that makes a story fascinating.
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August 9, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Alpha Xi---Sorry, I just assumed that the same moron was behind all the stupid comments.
I am indeed happy with my own writing style and my schools of thought. My temper was raised when the same pointless complaints were raised as though they were legitimate criticism---oh noes, I don't like epic, etc.. Such comments will be summarily dismissed, because they're not constructive any more than "I don't like Slash's hairstyle" would be. Complaining about the unchangeable, such as genre, is outright retarded. I wonder what they're expecting me to do...have Kiako get hit by a bus, Giovanni gets a stroke and loses the Pearls, the Shadow...suddenly dies!...and the protagonists move to Hawaii for the rest of the story? lolwut.
Valid criticism would include plot holes/gaps (Pokeballs and their stasis functions, as Ek brought up), characters acting or appearing out of character, sloppy writing (chapter five formerly coming off as preachy from the narrative instead of Slash, as someone on one of the chans mentioned), stuff like that. Those things can be improved upon---I mentioned the limited stasis functions of Pokeballs and their limits, elaborated on Psymakio's feelings over killing humans, re-wrote chapter five to make Slash's anti-Jirachian views more clear.
The problem with Jack's comments weren't that he didn't like epic stories or Pokemon fanfiction---it was that he viewed those opinions as something I needed to 'correct' in my story, something possible to change...a rather arrogant, closed-minded view that was compounded by outright stating that the concept of the story repulsed him. Like I said, I didn't like Jane Eyre, but if Bronte was alive, would I tell her that she needed to make it more exciting and adventurous and sex-filled just because I like those kinds of stories? Fuck no.
It's not an author's job to change the themes of their work for others' approval; their job is to write what comes from their heart and share it with those who enjoy that kind of writing. Those people are the ones who understand the story's world and can offer helpful advice. If refusing a handful of demands to change my story from epic novel to a down-to-earth, more 'canonical' (not a good thing in the Pokemon world) work makes me a hack, so be it.
You do, however, make a good point. I should not have responded to it at all. I should have ignored all the pointless complaining...but I don't really have the heart to just outright delete someone's comments without saying why (hence why I eventually replied to you). I hoped that I could make the distinction between valid criticism and personal complaint clear. I've now done all that I can to make that clear, and if someone doesn't grasp that...perhaps I will indeed ignore them, at least if they've already been told about the difference, as you and everyone else up to this point has.
Adios.
I am indeed happy with my own writing style and my schools of thought. My temper was raised when the same pointless complaints were raised as though they were legitimate criticism---oh noes, I don't like epic, etc.. Such comments will be summarily dismissed, because they're not constructive any more than "I don't like Slash's hairstyle" would be. Complaining about the unchangeable, such as genre, is outright retarded. I wonder what they're expecting me to do...have Kiako get hit by a bus, Giovanni gets a stroke and loses the Pearls, the Shadow...suddenly dies!...and the protagonists move to Hawaii for the rest of the story? lolwut.
Valid criticism would include plot holes/gaps (Pokeballs and their stasis functions, as Ek brought up), characters acting or appearing out of character, sloppy writing (chapter five formerly coming off as preachy from the narrative instead of Slash, as someone on one of the chans mentioned), stuff like that. Those things can be improved upon---I mentioned the limited stasis functions of Pokeballs and their limits, elaborated on Psymakio's feelings over killing humans, re-wrote chapter five to make Slash's anti-Jirachian views more clear.
The problem with Jack's comments weren't that he didn't like epic stories or Pokemon fanfiction---it was that he viewed those opinions as something I needed to 'correct' in my story, something possible to change...a rather arrogant, closed-minded view that was compounded by outright stating that the concept of the story repulsed him. Like I said, I didn't like Jane Eyre, but if Bronte was alive, would I tell her that she needed to make it more exciting and adventurous and sex-filled just because I like those kinds of stories? Fuck no.
It's not an author's job to change the themes of their work for others' approval; their job is to write what comes from their heart and share it with those who enjoy that kind of writing. Those people are the ones who understand the story's world and can offer helpful advice. If refusing a handful of demands to change my story from epic novel to a down-to-earth, more 'canonical' (not a good thing in the Pokemon world) work makes me a hack, so be it.
You do, however, make a good point. I should not have responded to it at all. I should have ignored all the pointless complaining...but I don't really have the heart to just outright delete someone's comments without saying why (hence why I eventually replied to you). I hoped that I could make the distinction between valid criticism and personal complaint clear. I've now done all that I can to make that clear, and if someone doesn't grasp that...perhaps I will indeed ignore them, at least if they've already been told about the difference, as you and everyone else up to this point has.
Adios.